Category: roof (Page 6 of 7)

Replacing the purlins

The purlins are the pieces of timber that run horizontally from the end walls to the A frame truss that is in the middle of each of the properties.  Each cottage has 8 purlns – 4 each side of the truss.  Therefore, there are 24 in total.  Unfortunately, 6 need to be replaced – 4 were cracked and 2 were replacements (probably sometime in the last 50-60 years, but done poorly).

The first challenge is to find replacement timber.  This can be difficult as the woodwork is going to be exposed when the property is finished so it all needs to (sort of) match.  Given that the existing timbers are a bit “rough and ready”, we needed something similar.  The new timbers came from a reclamation yard in Preston (although the timbers themselves originated from France).

Using the old timbers as a pattern, the new timbers are cut to length and the end spigot cut to match the old.

Then it is a case of getting the new timber in place using the telehandler and fitting the timber.  The carpenter is taking all of this in his stride and we are getting 2 purlins replaced each day.

The next job will be to replace the tie beam (the bottom beam on the king post truss) in the middle cottage.  Fingers crossed and with some fine weather, this could happen towards the end of the week.

Then all the timber will be sandblasted and treated before the roof goes back on.

There are 24 purlins in total in the property.  Unfortunately, 6 of them had to be replaced.

There are 24 purlins in total in the property. Unfortunately, 6 of them had to be replaced.

Roof removed

In the last two days, the roof of the existing cottages has been removed.  Many of the stone slates were put onto pallets and lifted onto the ground using a telehandler – the remainder have been stacked on the scaffold.  There simply wasn’t enough room on the scaffold for all the slates.  I am amazed how quickly this has been done and all achieved in two days by 3 roofers.

With the roof removed, we can have a good look at the timbers and at first glance, they don’t appear to be too bad.  They are some that will need to be replaced, but we knew this before we started the work.  The architect is due this morning and some decisions will be taken then.

It looks pretty impressive from the outside, but even more impressive from the inside.

Here's the view from the rear of the property with the roof remvoed.

Here’s the view from the rear of the property with the roof remvoed.

Inside number 10 without the roof

Inside number 10 without the roof

This is the old kitchen (downstairs) and bathroom (upstairs) in number 10.  You can just see the king post truss in the top left corner for number 10, and through the upstairs doorway you can see the king post truss for number 9.

This is the old kitchen (downstairs) and bathroom (upstairs) in number 10. You can just see the king post truss in the top left corner for number 10, and through the upstairs doorway you can see the king post truss for number 9.

King post truss in number 9

King post truss in number 9

View from the roof

The builders arrived last week and the scaffolding was completed over the weekend.  Before the work started (and while the builders weren’t around), we could not resist the temptation to have a look from the roof – the views are better than the roof itself!

There is now scaffolding right around the property to enable the roof to be removed.

There is now scaffolding right around the property to enable the roof to be removed.

 

Jo admiring the traditional stone slate roof!

Jo admiring the traditional stone slate roof!

 

The telehandler is used to reach up to roof level with a pallet.  This is then loaded with slates and brought down to ground level while the roof is being repaired.

The telehandler is used to reach up to roof level with a pallet. This is then loaded with slates and brought down to ground level while the roof is being repaired.

 

This is the front of the roof - all made from stone slates.  It has probably been re-roofed a number of times and this explains the varying qualtiy of the slates.  The slates are coursed so the bigger ones are at the bottom and the smaller ones are at the top.

This is the front of the roof – all made from stone slates. It has probably been re-roofed a number of times and this explains the varying qualtiy of the slates. The slates are coursed so the bigger ones are at the bottom and the smaller ones are at the top.

 

My pickup truck and a skip.  Question is which is which!

My pickup truck and a skip. Question is which is which!

 

This is the outbuilding (with new roof) and the newly installed polytunnel.  The orchard is behind.

This is the outbuilding (with new roof) and the newly installed polytunnel. The orchard is behind.

 

Finally completing the roof on the outbuilding!

Sunday was meant to be the worst day of the weekend and it ended up being the best.  Yesterday we had tried to get everything done because we thought the weather was going to turn bad.  It didn’t.  The good news though is that we have less work to do today!

In terms of the outbuilding roof, it is a case of putting on the sand and cement collars.  This is the band of mortar at the top of the wall and running in parallel to the roof line.  This is made using a very strong mortar mix (1 part building sand: 1 part cement: 1 part silver sand).  This gives a much stronger and smoother finish. This requires an expert, so this is a job for Paddy.  The pointing (filling in the gaps between each row of stones) of the end walls will be done using the same mix.  If it is different (and even if a different brand of cement is used) the finish/colour of the mortar will be different.  We add a frost protector to the mortar when it is mixed.

While Paddy is doing this, we get on with taking out the fireplace in No. 10.  During one of the breaks, Paddy gives me a lesson in how to point the wall.  Nothing fancy.  Just a flat finish.  I am going to have a go at pointing the end walls.  I will leave the front wall to Paddy.  Now all I did to do is find the time – pointing is exceptionally time-consuming.

This is the east end of the buidling.  This houses the outside toilet.  The large hole is for ventilation (a standard design in this part of Yorkshire).  You can also see the bricked up small doors towards the right hand side.  These were for scooping out the contents.  The original building dates from around 1750 and we suspect that these toilets went out of use around 100 years later.  That's alot of "scooping out"!

This is the east end of the buidling. This houses the outside toilet. The large hole is for ventilation (a standard design in this part of Yorkshire). You can also see the bricked up small doors towards the right hand side. These were for scooping out the contents. The original building dates from around 1750 and we suspect that these toilets went out of use around 100 years later. That’s alot of “scooping out”!

This end of the wall faces South-West and gets the worst of the weather.  The weather has taken it's toll on the pointing and from inside the outbuilding you can see sunlight between  the stones.  Notice the sand and cement collar along the top of the wall follosing the edge of the slates. You can see the "Water tables" right on the top of the wall - angled slightly back to stop the water from running down the front of the wall.

This end of the wall faces South-West and gets the worst of the weather. The weather has taken it’s toll on the pointing and from inside the outbuilding you can see sunlight between the stones. Notice the sand and cement collar along the top of the wall follosing the edge of the slates. You can see the “Water tables” right on the top of the wall – angled slightly back to stop the water from running down the front of the wall.

The roof now complete.  We still have to point all the stone work as well as putting up a rainwater gutter.  The felt (the white material at the bottom of the roof) will be cut when the gutter is put on.  The felt will just be tucked into the gutter.

The roof now complete. We still have to point all the stone work as well as putting up a rainwater gutter. The felt (the white material at the bottom of the roof) will be cut when the gutter is put on. The felt will just be tucked into the gutter.

Almost completing the roof on the outbuilding

The roof on the outbuilding was completed on Saturday.  At about 7:30pm – well after the sun went down.  The verges (where the sloping edge of the roof meets the wall) were mortared in after dark.  That is my excuse and I am sticking to it.  Fortunately, it was only the rough coat and the final finish was put on my Paddy the following day.

I guess we just push our luck too far today and we ran out of time.  It takes a good hour or so to clean up and pack everything away.  Getting out the cement mixer means another 30 minutes at the end of the day cleaning it out!

Anyway today, we altered the top two rows of slates so that they were closer to the top wall.  A bit of miscommunication between the guy putting on the slates and the folks building the top wall meant that we ended up with a 4” gap between the top of the wall and the top row of slates.  A couple of minor adjustments and we were done.  But it did take a couple of hours.

Next job was to put the stone slabs (called Water tables) back on the top of the wall.  These are large enough to bridge the gap between the wall and the top row of slates.  They are mortared into place and set so that they tilt slightly backwards (in line with the slop of the roof) to prevent water running down the front wall.

The main issue with the water tables is their weight.  They are roughly 1m long and 750cms wide and about 75cm thick.  Solid stone weighing it at around 60-80kgs each.  These had to be man handled 12ft into the air and placed on top of the wall.  Fortunately, we had some small scaffolding towers, but even then it was a struggle.  We repurposed a large flagstone from the top of the side wall to make up for the gap where the chimney had been.

But by 6pm, we were pretty much all done.  The light was starting to fade and then it started raining.  But we had had a good day and achieved what we had set out to.

Day 2 of reslating the outbuilding

Yesterday, the roofing felt and laths were installed. Today, the slates are going back on.  We are replacing the occasional broken, or poor condition, slate with slates off the lean to.

Biggest ones at the bottom.  Smallest ones at the top.

Biggest ones at the bottom. Smallest ones at the top.

Revealing the roof trusses

This weekend we took down the ceilings and the ceiling joists in the larger cottage.  This time we got it right and are taking down the ceilings before taking out the floor!  We have made life hard work for ourselves in the cottage next door as there now is no upper floor.  We are going to have to use a scaffolding tower inside to take the upper ceiling down!

The larger cottage is essentially two cottages that have been knocked into one.  Thus, there are two separate lofts with dividing walls and a roof truss in each.  The original ceiling is tongue and groove pine, however, I don’t think this is original to the building – I reckon it was probably a later addition in Victorian times.  This pine cladding has subsequently been plasterboarded over.  In addition, above the ceiling was around 300mm of loft insulation.  We took part of the ceiling down around the access hatch by first taking down the plasterboard, then taking the loft insulation out.  We then climbed up inside the loft (yuck) and the stamped on the ceiling below to bring down the pine cladding (making sure that we didn’t come down with the ceiling).  Once the ceiling was down, it was a case of removing the old ceiling joists.  Most of the joists came out without any trouble, some of the more stubborn ones needed to be cut through with a saw first.

Both cottages have what is called a “King post truss”.  This is has a single post from the bottom beam (called a Tie beam) to the apex of the truss.  The truss in No. 10 looks exactly as you would expect.  The purlins (that run horizontally between the two end walls and the truss) are again what you would expect for a property of this age.  However, the truss in No. 9 is very different. We aren’t quite sure what has happened to the tie beam, but it certainly isn’t beefy enough to carry the weight of the roof.  Two of the purlins have been replaced with sawn timber that is bolted to the truss – again, looks like a Victorian addition.  The woodwork in No. 9 is going to need quite a bit of attention!

With the ceiling and the ceiling joists removed, you can now see the King post truss and the purlins that make up the roof.

With the ceiling and the ceiling joists removed, you can now see the King post truss and the purlins that make up the roof.

The king post truss in No. 9.  It needs some attention - the main beam isn't really big enough and we can't work out what has happened here.  The purlins in the background show original ones to the right and new(ish) ones to the left.  The new ones are sawn wood that has been bolted to the truss - they also have been set vertically rather than angled with the slope of the roof.  And if that wasn't enough, the purlin on the camera side of the roof (that you can just see through the truss on the left) has a massive crack in it.

The king post truss in No. 9. It needs some attention – the main beam isn’t really big enough and we can’t work out what has happened here. The purlins in the background show original ones to the right and new(ish) ones to the left. The new ones are sawn wood that has been bolted to the truss – they also have been set vertically rather than angled with the slope of the roof. And if that wasn’t enough, the purlin on the camera side of the roof (that you can just see through the truss on the left) has a massive crack in it.

This photo shows the detail of one of the purlins in No. 10.  The ends of the purlins are pegged through the truss and the timber is very roughly sawn - often only on one side.  With this purlin, you can still see the bark attached to the the timber.

This photo shows the detail of one of the purlins in No. 10. The ends of the purlins are pegged through the truss and the timber is very roughly sawn – often only on one side. With this purlin, you can still see the bark attached to the the timber.

Felt and laths on the outbuilding

Well, the snow arrived on Monday and so did Nipper and John (another John, not the same one that worked on the walls).  It was bitterly cold, but it didn’t prevent them from getting the felt on the roof and the laths installed.  The positioning of the laths depends on the height of each course of stone slates – bigger ones at the bottom, smaller ones at the top.  Each of the courses has to overlap to ensure the water doesn’t get through, so it takes a little while to sort out.  Glad it wasn’t me doing this work today!

Monday morning and the snow has arrived.  Nipper has worked out the courses and this determines how far apart the lathes need to be placed.  It is a cold day to be working on a roof, even if it is not 30ft up!

Monday morning and the snow has arrived. Nipper has worked out the courses and this determines how far apart the lathes need to be placed. It is a cold day to be working on a roof, even if it is not 30ft up!

New woodwork for the outbuilding

All of the spars and purlins were removed and replaced.  The existing purlins were nowhere near as big as they needed to be and at some point the original purlin had been supplemented by an additional piece of wood.  All very poorly done and still nowhere need adequate.  Two of the spars in the middle bay had snapped under the sheer weight of the stone slates on the roof.  So we have increased the total number of spars as well as increasing the size of the timber.  We have installed two purlins right across the outbuilding, rather than the one that was there previously. And again we have increased the size of the timber used to 6×4 (although they are really two 6×2’s bolted together – 6×2 are held in stock as standard treated timber – we would have had to order treated 6×4).

The two end walls had to have new holes cut for the purlins and this has meant that they have needed to be repaired to a certain extent.  It is a single skin building and large parts of the upper courses were fairly loose.  Paddy and John have done an excellent job at cutting the stones to fit around the purlins – it puts the rest of the wall to shame, although I suspect that a little bit of pointing will help both improve the stability of the wall as well as it’s appearance.

Paddy and Jon repairing the end walls, Richard fitting the new sofit.  The big stone slabs are the "water tables" that fit on the very top of the wall on the front of the building.

Paddy and Jon repairing the end walls, Richard fitting the new sofit. The big stone slabs are the “water tables” that fit on the very top of the wall on the front of the building.

You can see the top of the end wall where it has been made good and now lines up perfectly with the slope of the spars. If you look along the ling of the roof it is perfectly flat.  The woodwork was put in so accurately that one spar was cut as a template and then all the other spars cut from it.  They all fitted perfectly.

You can see the top of the end wall where it has been made good and now lines up perfectly with the slope of the spars. If you look along the line of the roof it is perfectly flat. The woodwork was put in so accurately that one spar was cut as a template and then all the other spars cut from it. They all fitted perfectly.

Looking along the line of the roof, you can see how flat it is.  You can also see the two holes that have been cut for the new purlins and the stones that have been cut to fit.  The larger hole to the left is an original hole that was for ventilation - this end of the building was used as an outside toilet.  This is a standard design for this part of Yorkshire and we decided to leave it as it was.

Looking along the line of the roof, you can see how flat it is. You can also see the two holes that have been cut for the new purlins and the stones that have been cut to fit. The larger hole to the left is an original hole that was for ventilation – this end of the building was used as an outside toilet. This is a standard design for this part of Yorkshire and we decided to leave it as it was.

The other end wall showing the two holes where the new purlins have been installed.

The other end wall showing the two holes where the new purlins have been installed.

Paddy and John reparing the old outbuilding

Re-roofing the old outbuilding

At the front of the property, there is an old outbuilding.  It is split into three separate rooms.  The end room is being used as a log store.  The middle room is being used as a store-room.  The other end is the original toilet for the property when it was built-in the 1700’s. 

The "waves" in the roof indicate where the internal walls are inside.  There have been multiple attempts at repairing this roof, but none of them have been done correctly.  We are going to remove the slates, replacing the underlying woodwork and then reslate it with the original slates (plus a few off the lean to to replace broken slates).

The “waves” in the roof indicate where the internal walls are inside. There have been multiple attempts at repairing this roof, but none of them have been done correctly. We are going to remove the slates, replacing the underlying woodwork and then reslate it with the original slates (plus a few off the lean to to replace broken slates).

The main problem with the outbuilding is the roof.  This consists of stone slates (known as Yorkshire Greys) and although the outbuilding is small (8m x 3m) with a monopitch roof, there is probably something in the order of 4 tonnes of stone slates on the roof.  The sheer weight of the slates over the years has taken its toll and some of the wooden rafters had broken under the weight.  The only solution is to remove the slates and replace the woodwork.

When we removed the slates a number of them had delaminated due to the frost penetrating the stone slates.  Fortunately, the lean-to to the side of the house is going to be demolished and it has similar slates on the roof.  So, hopefully, we should be able to salvage enough slates to be able to re-roof the outbuilding.

Nipper inspecting the top part of the roof.  The chimney has been dismantled and is piled up by the bottom of the ladder.

Nipper inspecting the top part of the roof. The chimney has been dismantled and is piled up by the bottom of the ladder.

Nipper and Richard inspecting what is left of the woodwork with the slates removed.

Nipper and Richard inspecting what is left of the woodwork with the slates removed.

Stone slates removed from the roof and stack according to courses.

Stone slates removed from the roof and stack according to courses.

It only took around 3 hours to remove all the slates off the two outbuildings.  The slates were stacked neatly according to the courses on the roof.  Smaller slates are used at the top of the roof and then the slates get bigger further down the slope. 

Over the weekend the existing rafters were removed.  More wood for the bonfire.  Two lengths of wood were placed on the top and bottom walls.  These make up the “wall plates” that the rafter are attached to.  By making sure that the wall plates are level and parallel, each of the rafters should be exactly the same when installed.  This makes redoing the woodwork that much quicker and easier.  The general building work here was done by Paddy and John.

The woodwork has now been removed and the top two courses of the front wall rebuilt.

The woodwork has now been removed and the top two courses of the front wall rebuilt.

The two wall plates (the timbers that the spars are going to sit on) have been installed and double checked to ensure that they are both level and parallel to each other. A template spar was cut and used to check that it fitted all along the wall plates.

The two wall plates (the timbers that the spars are going to sit on) have been installed and double checked to ensure that they are both level and parallel to each other. A template spar was cut and used to check that it fitted all along the wall plates.

The top two courses on the front wall had to be rebuilt as the stonework was loose.  We also took the opportunity to remove the old chimney that is no longer in use.  Once the outbuilding is re-roofed it will need to be re-pointed.  With the roof removed, the structure is very fragile and needs to be treated with care.

 

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